George have you tried a different ammo brand? I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. They claimed to have test fired it after repair. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. . Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds People cant make crap up in their comments? Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. It is not made for quick magazine changes. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! Glad I didnt see mine. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. The CW380 sucks. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. It is light and works. No problems when used within its limits. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Happy ending. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. . I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Have you ever even shot one? But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. I also have the Kahr. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Does this guy have any gun expertise? I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. So special, they ride the short bus. BUT! One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. Also people need to fire them at the range. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. The Pico is top notch. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. . I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. How do they perform? Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. I fell for the Pico hype. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. My shooting buddy has an LCP. CPX 2. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Totally agree. Funny mine have always worked. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Its that bad. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? I have 2 of them. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. These are not military combat weapons. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. Take down the Pico. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Mild. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. The Mag release is a piece of cake. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. based on what your stupid opinion? The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. . And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Its a joy to shoot. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. You get two shots, a single-action-only Guess what? Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Which is good compared to many overpriced semi auto pistols which are not as dependable. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. We saw your review and write up. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. I used to have one. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. Note to self, Get to the range! No thanks. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. Totally precision stainless steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, best sights in class, best take down in class, One of the most Mild mannered shooting guns made for that size. OMG! How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). You have entered an incorrect email address! And for sure never shot one. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. I. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. I laughed when I got to the CM40. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. Since I dont know whether or not your going to use it for EDC, I will recommend one full size and one small one which i think are the 2 best IMO. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? No I dont own one I own two. Nicer than the price would indicate. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. I just dont see the silent u in that. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? and wrote the entire line off. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). Probably ran 150 round through it so far. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. He does not know how to use it. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. 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