There are many aspects of it that ARE still a > mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? in fact if you look very closely, Mandy on the Slab, winks. The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. > > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film. and she > replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," > Mandy says, "I know." It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. "My Sex Slave video with Chinese subtitles"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, ZKD 788-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, Im Treibhaus (Wesendonck Lieder) - Richard Wagner - Faynehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, When he claps his hands together. This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." And the redeemer's pubic hair is also trimmed the same. In a > case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his > mind, but he was kinda busy. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", Ditto. >on the balcony looking down> at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. news:47897d0b$0$5129$4c36@roadrunner.com > Harry writes: (seen on google)>> >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense >> >>> of>>> anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible >> mumbling),<<<>, >> No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare >> kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" Crumb Eye. Orgy? But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was> showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). He treated her as a not-very-important> patient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery.>, Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast.>, > How? After Dr. Bill Harford's wife, Alice, admits to having sexual fantasies about a man she met, Bill becomes obsessed with having a sexual encounter. EWS was potential. Even Ziegler only uses that wordin reference to his own earlier party, while referring to the Somertonrituals always more elusively: "I was there, at the House", "what ifwhat happened was a fake, a charade", etc, but no mention of any'party' at Somerton. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.kubrick/browse_frm/thread/16629c3d6011a459/705fb749859063b2?lnk=gst&q=treadmill#705fb749859063b2. What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any > way. (and i'm sure that doesn't even begin to label them in full) They were nutcases. I recognized the voice of the > mysterious woman first time I saw the film.>>, >> it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. I enjoy the mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the film again and again. ANSWERS: 4. WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. ", wrote:> In rec.arts.movies.past-films Harry Bailey . I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but the way you're saying it is silly. He could choose to call it many things, but 'party'? Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. Put on some headphones and listen. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. Eyes Wide Shut: What The Mask On The Pillow Means, Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best, The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story, Why Pirates of the Caribbean Producer Wants Johnny Depp Back, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics. And even if it was clear, even if he hadreferred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)party, it would still be uncertain, because. No comments. No, it was just set up that way, as a puzzle, so that there would beendless discussion. You know perfectly well what was meant, Mr Glib Pedant but if youwant to Labour on it, as opposed to labor on it >> [ more stuff snipped ]>> > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? And isn't this the mistake that many of the film's> critics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,> desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidy> denouement? A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. Whereas atSomerton, Ziegler and the others only first become suspicious of Billas an interloper because of how he arrived there (in a taxi ratherthan a limousine). WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! How? ", > I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you, > mean,> but the way you're saying it is silly. 10 Stanley Kubricks Sudden Death. > Mandy was not the same woman. Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. -Herodotus, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, I thought the woman who ODd at the dance party (Mandy), the woman who, Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - I don't care to look up her name, Here is a youtube video of "Mandy" (Julienne Davis), singing in her band, I sent a message to the YouTube person who hosted those "Mandy" videos if. The movie went through post-production following Stanley Kubrick's death, though some have argued about how much it represents his intended vision. And of course how did > the mask get on his pillow? >Apparently word of Bill's> entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket? Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. He discovers an underground sexual group and attends one of their meetings -- and quickly discovers that he is in over his head. > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all along, although apparently there was a body double for some scenes. >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all> along. I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. Related: Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? <<<<<<<<, > In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, > subliminally. Can it really compete with Rupert? (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting Desire is always Other. If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. WebSynopsis. Here was Stanley Kubrick, for many the worlds greatest living filmmaker, returning with his first finished project in 12 years a sexually provocative adult drama, utterly shrouded in secrecy, starring pre-eminent Hollywood power couple Tom All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? ". And Milich was expecting him. at the> ceremony/orgy. 0. But which'party' is Bill referring to? Why would he demand that she take offher mask if this were so? It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is the mystery. Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/. That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. Models at the party attended by the Royal Family. Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. > Take another listen. In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. He is not exactly voicing his thoughts. --And men fancied he was dusted in gold. I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite a few notches below EWS. In fact, the only actual dream in the film is unseen, is onlylater described - namely, Alice's dream/nightmare about having sexwith numerous men (strikingly similar to the fate of the women atSomerton) in which Bill is openly humiliated, and told to Bill justafer he returns from Somerton. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). Mon 14th Feb 2022 19.00 GMT. andpleading with her to take off her mask? >He also must have recognized> the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a> tinge of distinctive accent. : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." He then breaks down crying and confesses to Alice his misadventures of the past few days. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. >>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<. The main point, was that that kind of mental approach to things, is actually the biggest impediment to focusing the mind. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. >>>>>>>>>If this were really the> case, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to the> masked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. It's not like > he is going to voice all his thoughts.>>>, >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. Mandy was not the same woman. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. Bill is still even denying he knows what Zeigler is talking about till Zeigler says "I was there at the house. > I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the > reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the > crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. Every woman Bill meets in the film wants him, wants to be with him; Alice Statanic mass?>, > <<<<<<<<< You can identify Pollack's eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups.>. [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. I found them both disappointing. But then, Ziegler's 'explanation', his retconningof past events, only serves to further propel Bill into subjectivedestitution, another 'replay' of Bill's unmasking at Somerton, Zieglerpower-presiding over Bill's position and status at a red pool-tablemuch like Red Cloak presided over the power ritual on a red carpet atSomerton. Like much of the director's work like The Shining, movie fans love to debate the symbolism and meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. WebEyes Wide Shut. However, the lack of one may have saved the life of gangster Vincent (Mad Dog) Coll (various movies). Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. He treated her as a not-very-importantpatient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! > Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here that unless they are encoded in single frames for analyssis will alwasy be a mystery. He has written words for Den of Geek, Collider, The Irish Times and Screen Rant over the years, and can discuss anything from the MCU - where Hawkeye is clearly the best character - to the most obscure cult b-movie gem, and his hot takes often require heat resistant gloves to handle. Is that how > you> would describe it? AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. When I did this, at first it seems like a similar, but different face, but then seeing one frame of the bathroom scene from a certain angle, it jumped out at me that it was the same person, but I could be wrong. Isn't that - again - amazing; except that you're not even unfortunateenough to have a mindless head, given the large quantities ofbubblewrap - and nothing else - between your ears take care, MrKelpless. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. > not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. Carolin Ruwe, in her book Symbols in Stanley Kubrick's Movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', argues that the mask is the prime symbol of the film. 1. --alt.flame Special Forces"All successful software gets changed." Let's get out of here.You're my witness. Yes, the three scenes - at Ziegler's party, at the Somerton ritualthe following night, and at the hospital morgue the next day - thatfeature Mandy/the 'masked woman' - remain ambiguous to the end. Masks - both literal and figurative - are a major motif, and one of the most important sequences is when Bill infiltrates a masked sex party at a remote mansion, which is being held by members of high society. MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. You saw her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor Cruise go free. If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. > So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) this> would 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? And you bring up anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. S he was the same woman who overdosed at Victor Ziegler's party earlier in the movie. (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. For instance,it's fairly obvious from the start who the Mysterious Woman is. If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. WebEyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By NomadMessenger From $8.79 Wide Awake during 2020, by Haus of Butterfly Flat Mask By hausofbutterfly From $10.99 Eyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By ArjunVile From $10.99 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Misschemical From $9.16 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? While Polanski is the master ofparanoia, The Ninth Gate had too many things wrong with it. Rather, heis beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the maskedwoman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her upclose in the morgue. > People often don't make definitive connections between things at the > moment. How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all wearingmasks? As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. > The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy > all along, If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. Please either stop or> shape up. >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade.>>, >>>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a total> denial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it's> all just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions of> Bill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to saying> that everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all> 'in his mind'). >Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >her voice in his head while looking over the body. <<<<<<<>>>>>>>If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. He was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," were killers. > No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare > clear and she has a very distinctive voice. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. ", "They were nutcases. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come together. >What else could> he call it? Was she the women at the party?" Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. If we try > to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries and > much conjecture. <<<<<<<<<<<<<. It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? :>released around the same time, The Ninth Gate. >>>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>>wearing> masks? >> When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"> but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him at> the orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. (Video in comments) : r/Ghostbc Jocelyn Pook and Opening Title Music from Eyes Wide Shut (1999) | walkerhomeschoolblog. And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? What does the mask on the pillow at the end of Eyes Wide Shutmean? As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. I am normally the last guy in the, > world to criticize somebody for using big words. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. Superman movies must keep him in the pre 80s, or he needsto do some serious upgrading. Same voice. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The The masks worn in the Eyes Wide Shut orgy scene are from Venetian carnivals; a reputation of civil disorder, moral debauchery and ritualized eroticism. 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