That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. The taste of a Sharwil avocado is excellent, on par with any avocado that Ive tasted. I feel really enthusiastic about it, and grateful for your advice. I will order the combination you recommended. Thanks again for everything. Then I would eliminate the Holiday on the basis of its lower production in comparison to Pinkerton and GEM. Great article Greg! In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. You mentioned stopping to see friends in O B. The variety has been grown in Southern California for about a hundred years, having been brought up from Guatemala by Wilson Popenoe. Temecula gardener here. I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. They will never let you down or change their form. I know you know the pruning game so Im sure youll have no problem keeping the trees at 12 feet. We had problems with root rot our persimmontree died of root rot). PS Trees are medium growing and yield nearly year round. Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. Or do you have any tips that may make it work? 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Learn how you can support The Yard Posts here. "The Hass make up about 80 per cent and the Shepards about 15 per cent, and the . Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). Theyre for my parents and theyre concerned about consuming yield from two trees, but maybe after a few years, theyll be up for another! I live against the mountains in Pasadena so it can get pretty chilly in the winter will these verities do well in my climate? But the important thing is that Reeds taste great a couple months after Hass are at their best. It will be in the first week of October. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. Just to imagine your future for a second: Youll be eating SirPrize avocados around now in March, then youll switch over to GEM sometime around late spring, then youll end the summer and head into fall with Reeds; oh, here comes the next crop of SirPrize fruit starting to blacken its skin and tell you that its time to pick. Im from Southern Portugal and had also trouble to find reliable sources for avo trees. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. In terms of the harvest season complementing your Hass and Fuerte, advantage probably goes to Reed here also. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. Also, this winter had me buying avocado from Mexico, which is either small and cheaper, or XL and pricey. Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. My Reed, as well as those I know nearby, does relatively well. Weve got room for one, or maybe 2, avocados. No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. Pinkerton seems to never drop fruit in the heat. Best regards, Sharwil Avocados are medium-sized pear shaped fruits characterized by their rough green skin, which stays green and does not turn black as it ripens. I havent seen any other Gwens growing in exactly those conditions. 96 9GreenBox - Pineapple Guava - 2 Pack 1,083 I have been growing avos for 40 years. Pollenizers havent been shown to make much of a difference close to the ocean like you. http://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/2_Seminario/2_Seminario_Talks_Kohne_Rootstocks.pdf, This is when I realised the tremendous importance of the rootstock (some rootstocks have three times bigger yields than the others!). Hi Greg, thank you for your posts. americana) Im watching them do so in my yard right now. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. Thanks Take out the two dead and the one just barely hanging on and plant three new trees or find an entirely new place to plant away from the pool? Option 1: Reed. I have a friend down here in Southern California who also is very happy with his Zutano tree. At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, and. If you can send me another email address then please do. Super Hass Avocados are a dwarf variety, which make them great container plants. Both can be considered "creamy," but Hass has higher levels of fat which makes. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in, Whats Reed like? You must love seeing snow on Baldy right now. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. We planted 4 avocados in the front: Hass, Sharwil/Kona, Fuerte, and Reed. Grows the best long-term in the ground. I have Lamb, Pinkerton, Reed, Mexicola Grande, Hass, Holiday and Ettinger. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? It will be a few years before I can say much about most of the Hawaiian varieties I am growing. But mine trees are still small 3 and 4 feet and last year only had 5 egg size fruit. I tried it 2 days in row. I also checked on a huge old Nabal in OB that I used to eat from, and I was pleased to find that the tree is now doing better than last year. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. Then why isnt Fuerte my top choice? If you have a very productive Fuerte, then you wont start eating much of your Hass fruit until probably mid to late spring. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. As an aside, I recently spent a long weekend in Ramona, beautiful area. (See more about Lamb in my post, The Lamb/Hass avocado tree: a profile.). I like the way you put that. So even though I had anticipated buying for a few months, it seems that the winter avocado is more expensive, historically. Especially since I have a big interest in Hawaiian varieties it is difficult to know what the season will be in OC. Will likely be going with a Sir Prize based on that fact, but Eli at Subtropica has all available, its just so tempting to get all three and just try to plant the reed on the other side of the property. Mateo. I have bought a number of trees there. I have never tasted anything but supermarket Hass from distant lands so all I can do is read or watch videos of people describing how each variety tastes like. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). Out of those choices, I would go with Fuerte just because it has the most potential for cross-pollination with Pinkerton. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. (See more on this from a paper by Peter A. The tree looks good and very healthy!!!!!! Can you please tell me which avocado orchard you visited in California? Plus 1 GEM, 1 Lamb and 1 Bacon. The variety was developed in Australia during the mid-1950s and it became the main commercial avocado grown in . The correct spelling is "Hass." The word "Hass" rhymes with "class," and is often mistaken to rhyme with "Hoss" or "Hozz." Why is it "Hass Avocado?" Because the Hass Avocado is named after Rudolph Hass, a California postman who patented the Hass Avocado in 1935. I am looking for a variety that would : Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. Greg suggested me the Viveros Brokaw. Ive got more than one Hass tree planted (although only one is full grown) in part because my family of five is all avocado lovers, plus I love sharing with friends, neighbors, and extended family, and everyone loves the familiar Hass. Thanks for your feedback. So Im only guessing here. The rest of it rocky, not very rich, not clayey (I guess this should mean it is well ventilated. Whip vs. side grafting considerations. Ive found that 30% shade cloth over the top of young trees is enough unless its over about 105 degrees. Kona Sharwil.wow! Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. This is so fun! What comes to mind is that Fuerte has a more distinctive flavor. Watering. This has happened before when a local avocado grower put a video of a seedling with huge avocados up on YouTube. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. Weve been in our San Diego (San Carlos) home a year and are finalizing landscaping. Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. As you get closer to the ocean and farther north, the Reed season gets later and longer because of the cooler temps. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. I love your articles!! Im leaning toward Gwen or Reed for a fall producer, and Holiday, Pinkerton or Wertz for winter production. This is how your year in avocados could look. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. I have not been able to get a clear answer as to why this is not grown in South Florida. I moved mine into a barrel. Hi Greg, Great and very informative information for us who are interested in Avocado farming.However I need more information on how I could distinguish different Avocado trees, for instance I understand that Hass avocado trees are ever green. The worst infestations Ive seen have been on highly fertilized trees. (Both Reed and Hass produce more than Fuerte in my yard.) So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. Its been a great summer in OB/Pt Loma. They arent peculiar in flavor to me, they just taste like everything I hope for when I think avocado.. I confess I began gardening only very recently, and I am super interested in all the different varieties and the scientific details. If you ever go wine tasting up here, the huge Puebla and another large tree which sounded like a Zutano but it could be some other old variety they are at Farella Vineyard in Napa. Very happy with my Zutano. I watered it every day, but the young tree literally burnt alive and became all black in just one month. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. I am a huge fan of Hawaiian varieties and I am highly considering grafting Kahaluu to one of the trees. Shepard avocados will not bend or break. I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley. Thanks for the articles; Im finding them to be a wonderful resource. I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. Option 2: Sir Prize. Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. Thank you! I have been watching this tree for years since I work in the area, had some fruit once they turned black and they taste exactly like Fuerte! But now with youtube it has been easier to see what can be grown up here. Hi Greg, has a high oil content and is larger than the hass variety. Ive never had a tree-matured Reed. Ill ask and post an update here as I learn. Hi Greg, Thank you so much for your recommendation. See this article about mulches and controlling root rot in avocados: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC5/Papers/WAC5_p561.pdf. Hi David, But Im game to attack it with a fun and practical twist: Im imagining that I just moved into a new house with a blank yard . With GEM as tree 1, you would find that Sir Prizes harvest season is earlier whereas Reed and Lamb are later. D'Arturo Avocado. I live in San Diego, about 7 miles away from the coast. But sometimes I dont get lucky with that method, in which case I go to the Miramar Landfill in San Diego where they process such wood chips along with other yardwaste by composting it for a couple weeks and screening it. But I have to emphasize that this is just secondhand information. They will always stay true to who they are (unlike Hass, who with one whiff of heat or pressure shapeshift quicker than a Harry Potter character). Or is Dusa just the best variety to this day (as these articles say), and in any case it will be better than Duke 7? I also dont know anything about growing avocados in France, but Ill do my best to help you get started. These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? We are Sunset zone 17. I do know MacArthur avocados. See my post on Where to buy an avocado tree, and contact Subtropica Nurseries to inquire there. You could try a different variety, but I doubt that would significantly change your results. We may have an improved Fuerte. When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. Youve spurred me to finally post on some portion of the topic at least. One has more green on it than the other. Thank you!! Reed is basically a summer-into-fall variety. Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! https://ibb.co/BNxp1W8 I wish you luck with the planting this is a perfect time for it. Hi Greg. I have no idea if it was a great one or a terrible one. The tree bears regular crops of large, round fruit of exceptional eating quality. I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. Avocado strains include Nishikawa, Sharwil, and Lamb Hass. Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. Yes, thats my thought and what I suspected you might think as well! SUPPORTERS (we thank you! About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. But Ill definitely write profiles of them when I feel like I know them well enough. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. Hi Thomas, A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). I plan on keeping the trees no taller than about 12, so I dont have to get on a ladder. I would stick to A types though. One of my Hass is still a baby, so I was considering taking it out and putting the Reed in its place. One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. Best of luck with the Reed. Your thoughts? It could be something I acquired from eating Fuertes as a kid, I dont know. Thanks for all the resources. Fuerte would work here since its bloom season is long and overlaps well with these two varieties. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Besides it being a source of great tasting fruit id like it to be a nice (picturesque) shade tree. On your south-facing slope it might not be as happy. Lamb Hass Lamb Hass is a California selection bearing spring and summer fruit. Results and timelines of grafted avocados. Unfortunately, they do not have a webshop, but I was able to call them, and they spoke both French and English. Maybe not the best. Isnt Sharwil a vigorous variety! The state dealt in the Sharwil variety of avocado, which some say is superior in taste and texture and yields more flesh. Thanks for the kind words. https://ibb.co/4jnDhXv come up with some heat resistant varieties. Is there another tree of comparable size that complements the GEM in season that could happily share this space? Good problems. I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. Really it's the type A Guatemalans that far and away perform best in the cool temps. By black sand I meant sandy loom. dont know how to grow in your region, So, I want versions that handle topping well or are naturally small. Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). 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