I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. It may not display this or other websites correctly. . I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. ELD-Match, Noslers 185-gr. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. JavaScript is disabled. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. How bout building a 280AI. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? Going to be used from antelope to elk. Which one would you choose and why? bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. Easily fed from a BDL mag box. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Interesting. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. You are using an out of date browser. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Reactions: Zeroit. Mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. Buy Now. Improving 7mm Rem. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. ADG 28 Nosler. The belt has never been an issue for me. I'd opt for the 7RM. These are some impressive numbers. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. 7mm Rem. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Alabusa Learning. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Barrels are like truck tires. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. I'm the same as you. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. But to really appreciate this, lets run a trajectory chart out to some crazy ranges. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. FWIW, the LRM setup that I have on the way was ordered with 16x-class projectiles in mind. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. Clear winner. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. This is Not a New Thing. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. Trustpilot. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. Mag., the 264 Win. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. Once you get some freebore to seat the long, heavy bullets out, it really shines. Both are great rounds. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. Does a great job on Elk or pig. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. Amazing bc too for the weight. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. for my brand of hunting. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. First, thanks to OP for starting this Thread and to everyone for posting. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. 180-gr. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Mag. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Buy Now. The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. I just did a 7mm build too. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. I tested the 7 STW, 7 RUM, 7 Rem mag, 7-300 win mag and even a 7 Lapua. My vote would be for the 7 saum. You must log in or register to reply here. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. Want to do 24-26 barrel. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. I did 7remmag. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. 92 grs. It is going to be strictly a hunting gun on a lighter weight platform. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. ADG 28 Nosler. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. Retumbo. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. Most people are getting sub half moa. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. $120.95. The 28 isn't blowing the doors of the MAX. So how do you choose among these three? Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. They sharpened the shoulder angle. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Both were introduced in 2001. ADG Brass. Mag. JavaScript is disabled. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined Nosler AccuBond Long Range. at the muzzle. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. Those are some impressive numbers. JavaScript is disabled. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. The U.S.A. hasnt fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. You must log in or register to reply here. All of the figures from both companies were developed in 24 inch test barrels. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. $89.95. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. You are using an out of date browser. Mag. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. I can't tell you how many cartridge choices I've settled on, only to change my mind again and again. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Categories Regardless what rifle cartridges were initially designed for, they can be perfect for other applications, which suggests the 7mm PRC could be your next do-all big game hunting cartridge. Buy Now. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. $81.95. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. Full Member. My vote would be 7RM as well. Long action lone peak. Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, waitll you haul around a 28-inch. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Therefore recoil is not a problem with bullets of 140-150grs. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Qty: Add to cart . Im thinking Id run Berger 168 or 180 in SAUM and 140 or 156 in PRC. That's how gun control works.". The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Just $1 per month , The old 7mm Rem. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. Why not back the 28 off and run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity? Trustpilot. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Mag. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Buy Now. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Trustpilot. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. Cartridge: 7 RUM. 224 Valkyrie. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. Worth considering. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Mag. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. Mag. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. at the muzzle. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. Medium slow burning rifle powders are most appropriate for both of these cartridges. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. without laser assistance. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. and a high B.C. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By 6.5 PRC. I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. ADG 300 PRC Brass. Mag. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. 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